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Ron Surtees
6/8/2010 11:55:09 PM
I am looking at the purchase of a DeckLink Studio or Decklink HD Extreme 3D video card. We already feed 3 cameras and two computers to five screens. With these cards can someone confirm that the delay to the projector from live cameras via either of these video cards, is no more than 1 frame?

webpreacha
6/9/2010 2:34:20 AM
will there be a time changer for video improv, say if we want to use a fast video for a slow song we can change the timing?

Lucas
6/9/2010 3:00:16 AM
Changing the speed of a video is a trivial task, however the ramifications of chaining the speed are greater than i think you realise.

Say the video is 25 frames a second, if you are slowing it down, you are actually adding a slight delay between frames. so it may become 15 frames per second. This will often be seen as stuttering or a strobing effect. And is quite distracting. Speeding up a video is not as obvious, but still can show similar effects.

Unless the video was shot at 60ish frames per second (like most Digital Juice stuff) I would not consider slowing down the video.

If you need any clarification please ask.

dreece
6/9/2010 1:33:19 PM
Posted By Ron Surtees on 08 Jun 2010 11:55 PM
I am looking at the purchase of a DeckLink Studio or Decklink HD Extreme 3D video card. We already feed 3 cameras and two computers to five screens. With these cards can someone confirm that the delay to the projector from live cameras via either of these video cards, is no more than 1 frame?



 

Is your intent to run the vido signal into the computer, then use the internal key option to then send the video with text-overlay onto the projector? Or is it to use the external key option to run both color and key to a switcher?

If it is the first scenario, then I suggest that you contact Black Magic design and ask them what the delay time is for the pass-through video when using internal keying. If it is the second scenario, then there is no lag time associated with the DeckLink video card and the live feed.


Ron Surtees
6/9/2010 6:13:43 PM
At different times we would want to do both. Thanks for your help. I Love the latest upgrades but would like the global image and video scaling to carry through to the overlay improv, or have options available to shrink/crop etc.

HudsonAndRick@bigpond.com
6/11/2010 6:42:15 AM

I have installed this latest version on my preparation computer and find that the Pan/Zoom feature is really disconcerting on the next slide displays as it seems to jump around so much that it takes your attention off the program. this will have to be fixed before I can use it for presentation. I was happy to see that the June 2 edition fixed the other problem with Pan/Zoom because I went live on that before I realised there was a problem.

Blessings

Rick


HudsonAndRick@bigpond.com
6/11/2010 6:58:08 AM
I need to clarify that the latest edition installed was the June 9 edition. This is the one that I won't be using at church because of the error mentioned.
Blessings
Rick

George
6/11/2010 11:16:58 AM

I tried to duplicate the behavior you described with the pan and zoom and was unable to.  From what you described, I assume you are playing a slideshow with pan and zoom applied and you are seeing the bad behavior in one or more of the preview pane windows - is that correct?

I also tried P&Z on a song background with single and multiple paths and loop - still no bad behavior.

You seemed to indicate that the behavior changed from a previous build to the 6/9 build. Please elaborate on what you are doing, how it was behaving before and what has changed.  If possible contact the support team so that they can take a look at your issue.


HudsonAndRick@bigpond.com
7/16/2010 6:01:28 AM

Hi George,

Sorry I didn't get back to you but I was trying the 22 June version hoping the problem may have been resolved in that edition but ran into other troubles with Quickverse Bibles not being visible. Now this is resolved I tried building a program with this 22 June edition but I have the same result with Pan/Zoom in the Current and Next Preview Pane windows.

I have a photo as background image to a song and have set Pan/Zoom to auto & loop with 75s, min=1x and max=2x and the preview panes are very jerky in the display of the pan/zoom so it is distracting for an operator. Really bad if you have both Current and Next jumping around at the same time.

So I don't think I can apply the June 22 upgrade to our Projection system either.

Thanks

Rick


HudsonAndRick@bigpond.com
7/16/2010 7:56:36 PM
This really refers to the June 9 and June 22 Edition. One thing about it is that the jumping around stops after a minute or so on each program item. Also you can see it if you look at display properties of the song and click on the song to show a large window. In this case the jumping happens very fast for about 10s then stops.
I tried it on our projection system thinking the graphics card might be different/better but the issue is the same.
It would be a great thing to have it fixed.
Thanks
Rick

George
7/19/2010 8:42:35 AM

I was able to duplicate the behavior that you are describing.  Once you indicated what your settings were it was easy to duplicate.  This appears to be tied to the combination of the 'auto' and 'loop' settings - if you select something other than auto or loop (but not together) it does not appear to behave the way you described.  The auto may not be what you want anyway as it randomly selects settings each time the item is presented.  Given the settings that you have listed, you should get acceptable behavior if you select either single or multiple rather than auto for the path setting.


mike
7/19/2010 10:19:09 AM

Just FYI.. I used Pan and Zoom this weekend from within a slide show for a couple of pictures.
It did not work correctly on very large (straight off of the camera) pictures. It did work fine on a picture that I resized earlier to the native resolution of my display monitor (i.e., 1024x768).   I do not know for sure that the size was the problem; but in the past (working on an under-powered machine) I found I always had much better results with appropriate sized graphiics. And it makes sence, there is a lot more work for the computer to do if it is working with a huge file.

I normally resize all large image files before using them; but I was handed a thumbdrive right before the service with pictures from VBS.


jameststephens
10/1/2010 9:30:56 AM
Can SSP run lighting controls?

iamgap
10/1/2010 4:39:09 PM

I believe there is a post in the Version 7 forum where someone claimed to make that work. It is not made by design, but the person was able to OLE Objects (IIRC) to make it happen.


osborn4
10/1/2010 5:20:11 PM
If yoiu can run your lights via midi and your computer has a midi out, then yes. Hook your light board to the midi out on your computer and have the various midis set up in SSP as audio items in the program.

Here's a thread on ChurchMedia.net that talks about doing it through different worship software, but the concept is the same no matter what software you are using.

jameststephens
10/2/2010 6:04:08 AM
Thanks for the info. I'll give it a try.

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